Comments on: Don’t Do It, say Anglican Leaders to TEC and ACofC

By: Kate

Kate — Thu, 07 Jan 2010 13:22:46 +0000

The same sex marriage issue is only the straw, and the issue that the press has seized upon. The deep issue is the slow leaching of the real Christian faith from our church. Some examples:

–I believe some commenters on this blog were present when Bishop Michael Ingham preached that he didn’t believe in a literal resurection. (I’ve been told that he makes the argument in Mansions of the Spirit that Jesus isn’t the only way to God, but as I haven’t read it, I can’t be certain. Perhaps someone else who has read it could weigh in?)

–A church in rural Ottawa allowed its building to be used for a session by an “animal psychic” on how to communicate with your pets (I blogged on this, I will find the link when I have time).

–I was at a funeral in an Anglican church in Ottawa a couple of years ago. All of the posters and flyers in the church basement were about social justice and environmental issues. There wasn’t a single word about Jesus, or evangelism. Social justice and environmental issues are important, of course, but the underpinning of Jesus, who he was, what he did, was completely absent. During the service itself, there was a bit of a pause (the priest had expected one of the family members to speak, and she didn’t want to do it). Instead of praying, we were instructed to “bow our heads and think good thoughts about Ian (the man whose funeral it was).

Do you see what I am getting at? The Anglican Church of Canada is on a road away from Jesus; she is leaving her foundation behind.

By: Warren

Warren — Thu, 07 Jan 2010 04:58:47 +0000

Gillian (#3), I can proof text too:

From 2 Peter 2:

2:1 But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, bringing upon themselves swift destruction. 2 And many will follow their sensuality, and because of them the way of truth will be blasphemed. 3 And in their greed they will exploit you with false words. Their condemnation from long ago is not idle, and their destruction is not asleep.

But, of course, you’ve heard all this before, haven’t you? I’m more interested to know if you unconditionally accept the penal substitutionary atonement of Christ, or if you have a more “creative” take on the purpose of the incarnation?

By: David

David — Thu, 07 Jan 2010 04:00:14 +0000

Gillian,
The passages that seem to condemn homosexuality are referring to prostitution
Don’t you think it suspiciously coincidental that it has taken 2000 years for this exposition to emerge, and when it does, it is in a culture that is pre-occupied with the normalising of homosexuality?

By: Gillian Wallace

Gillian Wallace — Thu, 07 Jan 2010 01:52:44 +0000

What ‘goings-on’ in the Dioceses of British Columbia, New Westminster, Niagara, Huron, and Montreal are you referring to? The blessing of loving marriages of same-sex couples? The Bible says, “All who love are born of God and know God.” (1 John 4: 7) The passages that seem to condemn homosexuality are referring to prostitution, which has nothing to do with love. We should all rejoice with people want to celebrate the committment of their love before God.

By: Gerry O'Brien

Gerry O'Brien — Sun, 20 Dec 2009 18:49:26 +0000

This seems like as good a place as any to put the following URL..
Why don’t the Anglican Leaders or at least why doesn’t the Primate of the ACoC say something about this.

If The Primate lets this and the goings-on in the Dioceses of British Columbian, New Westminster, Niagara, Huron and Montreal continue, then he really is showing that he also is a wolf in Sheep’s Clothing.

http://www.anglicanplanet.net/canadian-news/2009/11/30/more-controversy-in-ottawa-diocese.html

This is the kind of stuff that should be appearing here for people to read. Apostates All!!

By: stuck in Toronto

stuck in Toronto — Sat, 19 Dec 2009 17:10:48 +0000

And again, why do we need another covenent, pray tell?