Comments on: Anglican Planet interview with Bishop Patrick Yu

By: Warren

Warren — Thu, 02 Apr 2009 16:40:13 +0000

Jonathan (#27), I spent my childhood and early adulthood in the PAOC (and that’s where most of my family still is). I’m curious as to whether you tired of Pentecostalism, had a doctrinal disagreement, or the Anglican church just offered something better? For me, I parted ways for both doctrinal reasons and practice (i.e., worship style).

By: Jonathan

Jonathan — Thu, 02 Apr 2009 14:43:33 +0000

I started my faith journey as a Pentecostal and now find myself in the Anglican Church, right in the eye of the storm, in the Diocese of Niagara. This issue truly pains me, but what hurts more is the mudslinging that I have witnessed by both sides each deeming the other unchristian and calling the other to repentance. I know Bishop Yu and he is godly man and loves the Lord. For some of you to call him a wolf and to question his ability to lead I believe is uncalled for. The issue has gone beyond the Biblical text to personal attack. We should pray for one another and not a prayer that wishes to win the other to your side of the issue. This issue is multilayered and I agree with the good Bishop that we should “…resist a hasty, non-reflective revisionism [and] also … a narrow and non-reflective conservatism as well.” Blessing on all of you and please keep the Anglican Church of Canada in your prayers that the Lord’s will be done even if it doesn’t fit our categories of understanding.

By: Warren

Warren — Wed, 01 Apr 2009 02:46:10 +0000

Christopher (#25), I’m sympathetic to what I think you are trying to communicate, but some context would be helpful. Throwing out a couple of verses without explanation can give people the impression that you are a “proof texter” (something I’ve likely been guilty of from time to time). Proof texting is a popular approach in the faith tradition I was raised in.

By: Christopher

Christopher — Wed, 01 Apr 2009 01:59:00 +0000

“Behold, your house is left unto you desolate” Mat 23.38
“Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plaques.” Rev 18.4

By: Kate

Kate — Sat, 28 Mar 2009 19:41:03 +0000

LOL

By: Don't Panic

Don't Panic — Sat, 28 Mar 2009 19:27:15 +0000

Actually #20, we would never know if a bishop were truly orthodox or willing to take a stand for orthodox views in the ACoC due to the apparent removal of the backbone and other vital organs at consecration. However, since 2001 it seems the liberal bishops have found a way to transplant new spines and vitals and have taken a stand and then some for their views.

By: Maya

Maya — Sat, 28 Mar 2009 12:27:33 +0000

Warren #19, because in all these years of knowing him, he has come across as very orthodox, even in the Bible Study he just completed at Little T. in TO. Folks that we know also have been totally taken aback, you could feel some of that in the interview. Minority encouragement is one of the Diocese of TO’s strengths.

By: Kate

Kate — Fri, 27 Mar 2009 16:48:01 +0000

You can’t even get ordained Deacon in the diocese of Ottawa if you are too vocal about being orthodox, much less become a bishop.

By: Warren

Warren — Fri, 27 Mar 2009 16:37:54 +0000

Maya (#19), based on my three and half short years of exposure to Canadian Anglicanism, Bishops Yu’s comments do not surprise me and actually align well with what I expect to hear from ACoC Bishops. My simplistic take on things is that the door to becoming a Bishop in the ACoC has been tightly shut for many years to those who hold truly orthodox views and are willing to make a public stand for them. I’m curious as to your view on why my perspective would be so different from the “many” that you are a voice for.

By: Maya

Maya — Fri, 27 Mar 2009 14:20:37 +0000

I am sure I am a voice for many. With great hopes for an orthodox voice Bishop Patrick was elected. Now,
aghast, we are dumbfounded.
The scriptures talk about territorial spirits that control. Those who are in the ivory tower sometimes, get carried away by their own powers of intellect and reasoning. Instead of the Spirit, the mind leads.
God have mercy.