Comments on: Golden Opportunity for Federation Members

By: Marg

Marg — Thu, 19 Feb 2009 15:02:27 +0000

“what you want your church to be”

This phrasing is where they’ve got it wrong. The church that Jesus Christ is building is not supposed to be what WE want it to be, but instead what HE wants it to be.

If folks would stop focusing on themselves, and instead on Christ’s instructions in his Word (The Holy Bible) we wouldn’t be in the mess we’re in now.

By: Kate

Kate — Thu, 19 Feb 2009 15:49:08 +0000

I agree with you. However, I think this is a golden opportunity for those of us who are committed to the Federation way of doing things. The ACoC wants to know what the church should look like? Federation members should tell them. Loudly, and repeatedly. I admit I am somewhat cynical that the “you will be heard” promise will be kept vis a vis those of us who want the church to come back to orthodoxy, but you never know.

By: Winter Traveler

Winter Traveler — Thu, 19 Feb 2009 23:30:42 +0000

Quite frankly I see this initiative as nothing more than a feel good exercise to give Canadian Anglicans the impression that what they think matters and that they really have some influence on the Canadian church. In fact the theological and doctrinal direction of the the ACoC is set and nothing individual Anglicans have to say will change it. Does anyone on this site really believe otherwise?

By: Kate

Kate — Fri, 20 Feb 2009 01:23:12 +0000

Not really. That is why I am a part of ANiC. However, this blog is the Essentials blog, and Federation members read it too. If one is determined to stay in the ACoC, this is an opportunity for action, to push for reformation. After all, that is what Federation is about.

By: Jonathan+

Jonathan+ — Fri, 20 Feb 2009 01:59:16 +0000

I am one person who believes that the direction of any body can be changed - because I believe that God can change hearts and minds. He’s big enough for the task.

By: Kate

Kate — Fri, 20 Feb 2009 02:31:46 +0000

He is big enough for the task, but He hasn’t chosen to do it yet, and I am not hopeful that He will. I would be delighted to be proven wrong.

By: David

David — Fri, 20 Feb 2009 03:16:27 +0000

#5,
Something God does do if people persist in their rebellion is let them have what they want, eg: So God said, in effect, “If that’s what you want, that’s what you get.” Rom 1:24, Msg.

This is a form of judgment. As far as I can see, that is what is happening with the ACoC.

By: Daryle

Daryle — Sat, 21 Feb 2009 02:31:45 +0000

Exactly, David.

This entire age signals for us a turning from God to the worship of self. It is all about ME. God will be met in OUR terms.

This initiative smells of death. Nothing new from the human authors who peddle death, and in the listening to the Power of this world… “Did God really say?”

The godly need to be making their proclamations here, but we are presently just tolerated as visitors in a foreign land.

By: AMPisAnglican

AMPisAnglican — Mon, 23 Feb 2009 16:23:48 +0000

Wonder if Hiltz will take my posting seriously, or simply ignore it. Here is what I posted:

Where is my Church now?
It is lost in the wilderness of secular society, trying to fit in. It has forgotten that Jesus is not of this world, and neither is His Church. By trying to fit in to this world, the Anglican Church of Canada has moved away from Jesus. Like the tree that bears bad fruit, it is being cut down and cast into the fire. Like the worthless servant, what treasure it was trusted with is being taken away.

What would I like my Church to do?
1. Get rid of the Book of Alternate Services, and use exclusively the Book of Common Prayer.
2. Remove from the Priesthood all homosexuals and women. Put an end to woman ordination. Require all Clergy, Priests, Deacons, and Bishops to be “a man of but one wife”, along with all of the other requirements given in 1 Timothy 3.
3. Remove from the Priesthood any and all persons who do not publically acknowledge Jesus to be Devine, Resurrected (and that includes in body), and the one and only way to salvation.
4. No longer recognize any so called “marriages” or divorces performed by the courts of the secular government. Recognize only the marriages that were performed by a Priest in a Church, and only those divorces in which one of the spouses committed a sexually immoral act.
5. Define marriage as “an Act of God in which God Himself joins a man to his wife”.
6. Concentrate on following and obeying the Teachings of Jesus Christ and the Holy Word of God (that being the Holy Bible in its entirety). Spread His Holy Word to all who might hear it. Stop wasting time, effort, and resources on the Millennium Development Goals.