Anglican Network in Canada NEWS RELEASE
Anglican Church of Canada bishop attempts to prevent Anglican Network in Canada priests from ministering “within the bounds of this Diocese”
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: 19 October 2008
The Bishop of Brandon in the Anglican Church of Canada, the Right Reverend Jim Njegovan, sent letters on 16 October 2008 to the Rev Paul Crossland and the Rev Ann Crossland, rector and honourary assistant rector of the Anglican Network in Canada (ANiC) parishes of Church of the Resurrection (Brandon) and Church of the Redeemer (Dauphin), purporting to “inhibit” them (prevent them from ministering as priests). Bishop Njegovan implies in his letters that, since he was not informed that Paul and Ann had relinquished their Anglican Church of Canada licences, they had no right to minister “within the bounds of this Diocese” – that is western Manitoba.
Anglican Network in Canada response
Paul and Ann have not been employed by the Diocese of Brandon since November 2004 and, in fact, had ended their affiliation with the Anglican Church of Canada effective 31 August 2008. Archbishop John Clarke, bishop of the Diocese of Athabasca, where both Ann and Paul ministered from December 2004 until August 2008, received the Crosslands’ resignations from the Anglican Church of Canada effective 31 August 2008.
On 1 September 2008, both the Rev Paul and the Rev Ann Crossland were licenced by Bishop Donald Harvey of the Anglican Network in Canada, under the jurisdiction of the Anglican Province of the Southern Cone – one of the 38 Anglican Provinces in the world. The Anglican Church of Canada is also one of these 38 “Provinces”.
They are currently ministering as rector and honourary assistant in the ANiC parishes of Church of the Resurrection (Brandon) and Church of the Redeemer (Dauphin) since 1 September 2008.
It is shocking to think that Bishop Njegovan believes he has the authority to “inhibit” priests from churches which have no relationship with the Anglican Church of Canada (ACoC). Does he presume to have authority to “inhibit” Baptist, Pentecostal or Mennonite ministers from exercising their ordained ministry in western Manitoba?
Like these other denominations, the Anglican Network in Canada is an independent church with no structural relationship to the ACoC. In fact, the ACoC has severely damaged its relationship with the vast majority of Anglicans around the world. ANiC was formed to allow faithful Canadian Anglicans to join a church structure that would allow them to re-connect with Anglicans around and world and, once again, be recognized by them as authentically Anglican.
The majority of Anglican leaders worldwide – representing the vast majority of active Anglicans – recognize the Anglican Network in Canada, its members and parishes as authentically Anglican. At the same time, a great number of these same leaders believe the Anglican Church of Canada is abandoning historic Anglicanism and is walking away from the global Anglican Church.
The global crisis in Anglicanism, which started in Canada and the US, is causing many Anglicans and Anglican parishes in North America to realign with alternative Anglican Provinces that uphold historic Anglican and Christian teaching and practice – particularly as it relates to the authority and reliability of the Bible and the deity and transforming power of Jesus Christ.
Members of the Anglican Network in Canada are committed to remaining faithful to Holy Scripture and established Anglican doctrine and to ensuring that orthodox Canadian Anglicans are able to remain in full communion with their Anglican brothers and sisters around the world. Since it launched its ecclesial structure last November under the jurisdiction of the Anglican Province of the Southern Cone, ANiC has received two bishops – Donald Harvey and Malcolm Harding – 59 clergy and 22 parishes.
“L’État, c’est moi” eh Jim ?
I had hoped that the response committee would have mentioned this part of Bishop Jim’s charge but they did not. And then nobody including myself stood in Malcolm’s defence or took issue with Jim. It was sad and I feel ashamed. We are all like sheep without a shepherd here keeping our heads down as the diocese slowly falls apart. It feels as if like Elvis, Essentials has left the building and there is no longer a rallying point for “traditional” Christians.
There is an online petition asking for people to indicate their support for the Anglican Network in Canada and specifically for the ANiC parishes of St. Matthew’s Abbotsford , St. Matthias and St. Luke’s in Vancouver, Good Shepherd Vancouver, and St. John’s Shaughnessy. This petition can be found at:
http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/cofe-supporters-of-vancouver-parishes.html
This online petition was began on October 16th, and already has 696 signatures from around the world, including the UK, Canada, Australia, and the USA. Many of the people who have signed this petition identify themselves as clergy (including at least one that identifies himself as Bishop Harry Goodhew who claims to have participated in the creation of the statement on Human Sexuality at Lambeth 1998)
I encourage ANiC members from all accross Canada to also sign this petition, and demonstrate to the Global Anglican Communion that we are serious about our Faith.
#2 One wonders where Federation is in all of this? Can we expect more than a letter this time?
Good question Kate.
Panic
I think those essential to Essentials moved to the ANiC churches and left too small a rear guard. I would have loved to have stayed and sniped at Jim, Robin, Iain and Mike every chance I could but that would have required that I worshiped in a church that I was becoming very uncomfortable in. Then there is a matter of getting on vestry, no mean feat when dealing with a stacked deck.
I was told by one delegate that Robin had to ask for volunteers for synod at the last moment.
I was a visitor at Synod and if I had been permitted I would have taken Bishop Malcolm’s picture off the wall and shown it to all and demanded an apology.
17 of 47 eligible clergy did not attend (from synod records). If anyone wants a renewed Essentials presence in the Cathedral or elsewhere, contact me or Marilyn and I will put you in contact with someone. I’m moving to an area with no ANiC presence and will be an orphan for a bit, but if I can maintain the enthusiasm I’ve gained here there will be a presence there and it won’t be too subdued.
Panic #2. Perhaps you and any others who feel ashamed should read Luke 9:23 – 27 and take it to heart. It does no one any good crying over spilled milk my Brother!
Edited to add Bible Gateway link — Admin.
It could be that #2 has already stuck his or her neck out in the diocese in the past. What if he or she has a job there and a family? Maybe letting + Malcolm and ANiC respond seemed better and wiser at the time. I doubt seriously that his or her eternal destiny is at stake. Furthermore, it seems to me that Jim Njegovan was Malcolm’ dean, and that things did not come unglued in Brandon overnight. Maybe some of the shame needs to be shared by the people who served the diocese in the last 20 years and allowed someone like Jim to ascend to this position. Hum?
Could not agree with you more on the last part, so very true. Point is though, if a person needs some help with dealing with things, all one has to do is call! There are willing hearts and minds who will assist!
I might take you up on that some time, right now I think I will sit on the hill and wait to see what will become of Nineveh. The shade is pretty good, and with the wind to my face I can barely smell the fish puke anymore.
Don’t panic has indeed stuck his neck out a few times and I can attest to that! He also has a heart for God and for the Gospel so the welcome mat at ANIC is always out for him
I must confess I am somewhat of a loss as to what the point of #7 is…
I thought the point was that I and others should have had +Malcolm’s back at synod, and by not speaking out we were being ashamed of Jesus.
In truth, I think the reality IS something like that. Speaking out against what +Jim said in his charge had nothing to do with ANiC, or Essentials. +Malcolm’s orders come from God, and for him to be called a lay person in the sense that +Jim Brandon did was to minimize Malcolm’s apostolic calling as Bishop to nil, in the face of evidence to the contrary, namely that +Malcolm was in fact the bishop of Brandon, and is in fact AN ACTIVE BISHOP of the Southern Cone. Those holding clerical licenses from +Jim work for the Lord and should have acted to prevent their own bishop from offending God. It felt a bit like those at synod who did not speak on +Malcolm’s behalf were pleasing men, not God – and here I include myself. I suspect the only way to rectify the situation now is to go on record with the bishop of my views in writing. Hiding behind pen names at this point in the game is simply doing nothing for +Jim, my heart, or the truth.
wow thats bearing your soul if ever I heard….Don’t Panic please pray for God’s leading in whatever you do. Perhaps this is not his will for you at this time, or perhaps it is. Only you and God know for sure.
#13 If that truly is the case then I think Fr. Paul was being overly harsh.
Titus 1-9 is wading in on this.
How will this bishop inhibit the ministry of someone not under his authority as bishop? Besides words, words, words, what means does he have to inhibit someone? The laity of his diocese are not inhibited. Many feel disaffected, or forced to choose sides. Or stay home from dispirited churches. Sadly, this bishop can and does use the means at his disposal to inhibit clergy under his authority. The net result of his unconsidered words are further division. This bishop does not see himself as fomenting division. If they would all just obey him, things would be fine, wouldn’t they? Meanwhile, many churches go downhill, and his episcopal leadership does little or nothing to help them. Loyalty to this holder of episcopal office comes at a price, and disloyalty to him comes at a price.
I find it hard to get too worked up about this, as #17 says, these are just words without substance. Best ignored IMHO.
Kate Re: no. 15; I think maybe what Paul was trying to say that feeling shame is a really terrible place to be and which one of us has not visited that place before. But as Paul seemed to me to be saying, we don’t have to stay in that place, we can make changes and go in a different direction. What I heard Don’t Panic say in his response was that out of this shame he was contemplating some actions. My reaction was that those actions should come out of conviction rather than shame and I just would like to know that a lot of prayer time has gone into those actions which could cause damage to the person or even to ANIC before they are acted upon.
#19 — Well, ok, but I think that this conversation is getting a mite too personal for a public blog – perhaps the two of them should take it to private conversation?
nicked from Stand Firm
“You are banished. I banish you. And you.” Paul nugs Ann. “Did you hear something dear?” Ann looks up startled “No Paul!” She cocks her head slightly. “No, I hear the murmur of a stream flowing nearby, maybe some birdcalls…” Paul shrugs.”I could have sworn someone said something. Oh well. Back to ministering.” Ann smiles. “Of course dear. There’s bound to be all kinds of things floating in the air – but ministering is the thing we are called to do.”
Oh dear, such love being shared !
I think you should ALL make a personnal call to Bishop John Clarke.
You are ALL in for a very big surprise !
Peace Through Prayer In Christ,
Bernadette Njegovan
Diocese of Brandon
Bernadette, I’m not sure what you mean above. A surprise about the inhibition of the Crosslands or about the layosizing of Malcolm Harding.
We don’t take kindly to drive bys here, Bernadette. If you have a point to make, please make it. There are many folk here who would be delighted to debate with you. Frankly, I don’t blame people here for being upset about how your husband treated Bishop Malcolm. So, if you really would like to add to the discussion, please do so. (Cryptic threats don’t really do much to contribute to debate) Otherwise, I am sure you have more important things to do than post here.
I preferred it when Bob Bettson commented here a few days ago – he had something with which we could engage. Saying that we should all phone Archbishop Clark (he’d love you for that, I’m sure) for a surprise, doesn’t really add anything.
If you have different info, then please elucidate further. Otherwise it does just come across as a drive-by.
One of the differences between a blog like this, and say the Journal is that we do allow other perspectives. Doesn’t mean that you are not going to get called on them, but we do try and keep an open as possible policy, and allow disagreements. Please do try and use that facility, and not abuse it. Thanks!
Perhaps the Njegovan family, and for that matter the entire Diocese of Brandon should look up the online petition of support for the Anglican Network in Canada at
http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/cofe-supporters-of-vancouver-parishes.html
It is has been on the internet for only a few days and already has 815 signatures from around world, including signatures from at least 2 Bishops, and more Clergy than I can count!
AMPisAnglican [26]
I’ve just been perusing the names and comments on the petition. It is rather encouraging and inspiring.
Yes, certainly all kinds of things are in the air .
The truth will set us free !
I am certain there would have been no letter from Jim… if, things were in place….?
I was thinking, after reading some of the comments here. Perhaps Paul & Ann will share who they voted for in our last diocesan election ? Jim has not changed. We knew who we elected.
No motions of blessings have come before our synods. I can honestly say, I don’t think they ever will. We are a predominantly conservative diocese. Jim recognizes that . We are also part of a diverse church in Canada. We should respect are freedoms. Literal facing gospel or social facing gospel. Our church is called by God to both. That is clear.
Jim is a powerfully spiritual man. Apostolic succession…. Jim was consecrated by God & the people. Our church structure has stood the test of time. Let’s work within it. It is so well designed , one no longer is part of it, if one breaks the rules. I am certain reinstatements happen as easily, at all levels. I am hoping, St. Bedes, Kinosota will be the parish in the Anglican Church of Canada that steps forward & says, “we want our parish mission statement to better reflect our gospel call “. Check “Developing the Gafcon Movement”.
“Gafcon remains a gospel movement. It is far from saying that its memberships are the only true Anglican or the only gospel people in the Anglican Communion. We thank God that this is not the case. But, the movement recognises the acute spiritual dangers of a compromised theology & aims to be a resource & inspiration for those who wish to defend & promote the biblical gospel.”
Let’s think creatively WITHIN our Canadian church structure.
I have conservative leanings, I remain proud of them, and I think they bring Jim even more strength in his incredible ministry. I was slain in the spirit at the hand of Malcolm Harding. Perhaps Malcolm retired too soon, & was frustrated in not having his voice in the house of bishops any longer. I assure you, it has been there Malcolm & still is . I pray one day all will be restored in the Anglican Church of Canada. But, this can only happen if risk takers will stay within her and play by the rules. Remember, the bishop in the USA, that was chosen recently to be your leader was “removed” as a bishop within the Episcopal church. I pray for the day when the network is no longer & all parishes are restored within the arms of The Anglican Church of Canada….& the USA Episcopal Church.
I believe in MIRACLES !
Peace Through Prayer In Christ,
Bernadette Njegovan
Some of us are not the most gifted at the computer. I wanted to get back on line quickly, but I had problems. Perhaps we can make a vow to practise patience with each other.
Your Sister In Christ ?…(I hope)
Bernadette
Bernadette [28],
I find your comments difficult to piece together into a coherent perspective – that might be just me, of course..
I think you are saying that you wish the members of ANiC churches had stayed in the ACoC to provide a conservative voice and ‘diversity’. I am going to repeat some of what I said in another thread:
In the recent Michael Coren show, Dean Peter Wall was unwilling to unequivocally state that he believes in the physical resurrection of Jesus and his virgin birth; Rev. Lynn Corfield declared that mankind is not sinful. Last year in a Niagara clericus meeting, all but one of the priests present were in favour of dropping the recital of the creed since they no longer believed it. Niagara synods celebrate liturgies with a mish-mash of pagan symbols and ideas. It is no longer a question of conservative vs liberal: it is Christianity vs neo-paganism.
For those of us who have left the ACoC for ANiC, the time for working within the existing institution has passed. I have belonged to the Anglican church for over 30 years; during that time it has moved from liberalism to heresy. There may still be hope that it will repent and return to orthodoxy – I too believe in miracles. If it does, the ANiC parishes will be delighted to return to it. Thinking creatively within the ACoC will not do it – it really won’t.
You speak about playing by the rules of the ACoC: when the ACoC is willing to play by the rules of the rest of the Anglican Communion, then it will have the authority to request the same of me – but not before.
I have no idea what that means; are you referring to Bob Duncan? If so, how is that relevant?
We have been trying, since Essentials was founded, to work within the ACoC establishment. It didn’t work. I am utterly convinced that the ACoC, as an institution, is no longer Christian. That is why I voted that our parish join ANiC.
Begging your pardon, but this patronizing statement is a further slagging of our good Bishop’s character. Please stick to the facts.
Bernadette,
Reading your posts leads me to believe that you are a loyal member of the Anglican Church of Canada. Loyalty is a wonderful quality but it is no substitute for an enquiring, engaged faithfulness.
ANiC and Essentials believe in the authority of scripture and the truth of two thousand years of consistent church teaching. The ACoC no longer does. In fact, senior bishops are on the record as not believing in the Trinity or the primacy of God. The apostasy has spread so far that an editorial in the Niagara Anglican argued against the trinity. Same sex blessings have been being performed in New West, Toronto and in Niagara, in the cathedral.
The ACoC and TEC have both become pariahs in the Worldwide Anglican Communion, with less than a third of the world still prepared to take communion with Canadian bishops. There is a crisis of faith in the ACoC that is being exacerbated by falsely placed loyalties. All is not well.
Peace,
Jim
I think Bernadette is doing a fine job blogging away. It’s nice to have her here. I would have liked to have seen Bernadette doing carpet time.
I think the real problem is Brandon has less to do with +Jim’s theology, whatever that might be, and more to do with his leadership style. For many conservatives, the diocese does not feel like a place where they can freely be conservative under his leadership. For example, I know that many priests felt this way after the synod in 2006 where +Jim’s own son (and yours) in tears stood in favour of allowing Essentials to meet in local parishes. However, though the resolution passed and +Jim gave concurrence, in a letter to the clergy, the Bishop apparently said something of the effect that priests better not allow it, and then in another letter somewhere suggested consequences for such an act.
This is only ONE example of this type of thing. One wonders then how this reflects your comments above:
“We are a predominantly conservative diocese. Jim recognizes that. We are also part of a diverse church in Canada. We should respect [our] freedoms.”
In the Anglican Church many groups form organizations that reflect their positions. Integrity for example, or Zachaeus Fellowship, and now Inclusive Church. Why not Essentials? They do uphold the faith as it is outlined in the Prayerbook, and as held by the overwhelming majority of Anglicans in the world. Yes, Essentials seems to some a divisive organization, and clearly so to +Jim, but I suspect most in it, especially the now ANiC folks, feel that the kind of diversity we are now experiencing in the ACofC is fellowship breaking in many dioceses, and many fear, nationally by 2010.
Other conservatives are feeling increasingly marginalized, and are being denied a voice in their dioceses, and this sense for many is true in Brandon, especially for Essentials folk. As I said above, many, especially priests, are keeping their heads down for fear of getting them lopped off. If this is not a realistic response to +Jim’s leadership towards them, then I think he needs to make that clear to them.
I am so glad we are in conversation. I do apologize for my wording. But I know for certain if we jump on each other’s words our thoughts will not be heard. We will quite talking. (Malcolm retiring as bishop, from the Anglican Church of Canada).
So……. what if most of the Canadian church is “social facing gospel”, with some more “liberal” than others ?
Let’s not spend time critizing . Each parish has a rector & a bishop. Perhaps the Canadian Church should draw up 3 base mission statements. There will be some sentences shared by all I am certain. Parishes, after study & prayer, will adopt their statement & further add to them if they like. Being revisited every few years. But there would need to be a commitment to value each other equally.
We need to welcome all Anglicans in our pews on a Sunday as they have been there in our pews since our church began ! All of our bishops would need to have that sensibility as well.
Take a risk my brothers & sisters ! The power of God’s spirit is a mighty thing !
Peace Through Prayer In Christ,
Bernadette
P.S. Miracle of miracles !
How can I value the opinion of a bishop who would permit a hymn sung to “the Great Pumpkin” to be sung? (This has happened in Ottawa). How could the Niagara folk stay in a diocese where many of the priests don’t believe the Nicene creed? I am a Christian, not a neo pagan. With that, I bow out of this conversation.
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Bernadette,
There is a profound difference between a “liberal” theology, and one that denies scripture. One can sugar coat it and look at it through rose coloured classes as much as one wants, it’s still heresy.
Please explain to me why Canadian bishops are not welcome at communion tables in the majority of the Anglican world.
Peace,
Jim
I do think Jim hears all voices in our church. I was at that synod as well. It was not a happy time . I remember an observer telling a delegate they were going to burn in hell… or… something close .
I firmly believe “groups” have been our problem.
In moving forward…
We could ask our primate to have 3 committees established by our general synod ? They would be accountable to the structure & the upholding of the unity of The Anglican Church of Canada.
I think the Lord is calling us to be thinking creatively, together !
Peace….
Bernadette
After attending Lambeth Jim M., I have only one word….
fear
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Bernadette,
Would it not be more appropriate for the synod to address being faithful to the gospel as opposed to the continuation of an institution in apostasy?
Do you answer questions. If you don’t, it’s not a discussion.
Peace,
Jim
Kate, I hope you blow back in sometime. I think your sharing should not be on this platform but another. Please phone the bishop’s secretary & ask for a slot in his office time. Get together with a few of these Niagara folk, set your pressing thoughts on paper. Two of you meet together with the bishop.
Blessings Kate.
Bernadette
I will try Jim. I think all Anglican churches within The Anglican Church of Canada are being faithful to the gospel, “as they have received it”. Clearly it is how we read scripture that can separate us. Let’s go for the hot topic ! I would think an Anglican social facing gospel parish would look at same gender couples & say, the gospel is one word, love. With civil union in place, and consensus through all levels of synods, we the church will bless you. A Anglican literal facing gospel parish ……would welcome them, love them, and offer them prayers for healing. A Anglican middle road gospel parish, would welcome, not question their choices , but not bless .
All Anglicans ,being faithful to the gospel, as they have received it.
Our God , the gift of His Anglican church to us, the orders of worship we all share , holds us together .
I taught grade school for twenty years Jim…simple & organized …
is the best I can do. I pray I answered your question.
Peace & sweet dreams ,
Bernadette
Bernadette [41],
You appear to be saying that it is possible to “receive” the same gospel message in two ways that are opposed to one another and yet both “receptions” (or perceptions) are equally valid. This doesn’t make any sense whatsoever.
It is the equivalent of our both looking at the equation 1 + 1 = 2 and “receiving” it in such a way that one of us says the answer should really be 3 and the other that it should be 2. Both answers cannot be correct no matter how we “receive” them. One of us may be cross-eyed and read it incorrectly, but that doesn’t change the fact that there is an initial assertion that has to be true or false: it cannot be both.
Oh, #33 Don’t Panic ?
I have finally come to the realization of why I think these “groups” are not working for The Anglican Church of Canada. Our uniqueness, our special gift that sets us apart from other Christian denominations , is , our diversity .
Perhaps our call from God is far greater in the world than we realize.
Blessings
Bernadette
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Bernadette,
We have a fundamental impasse. A gospel of love? I read the gospel as it has been read for thousands of years and see a gospel of hope for the future paid for by sacrifice now. I don’t forget that forgiveness is contingent on repentance. I carry with me Christ’s admonition to “go and sin no more”. I accept Christ’s charge to “let the dead bury their dead”. I also accept that any social gospel must flow from kingdom considerations and not from human desires.
You are very new to this Blog. This is a very devoted scripturally knowledgeable group. Please don’t patronize us with easy bake solutions. The parish I left had members of my family in it for four generations both sides of both sides. I left because I was no longer prepared to be part of an institution led by those who deny scripture, creeds and teaching. Unfortunately, they have also taken with them a large section of the laity who have been sold on the no fault redemption plan (gospel of love). We do not have the right to tailor the Gospel to our own comfort zone. We are required to accept the cross and become dead to the world.
Most of us here have graduated from a kindergarten faith and have accepted our kingdom responsibilities. Christ said “I do not come to bring peace but a sword.” Gospel of love? Absolutely! God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son. Now it is up to us to abandon the world and “follow me”
Peace,
Jim
#44 Great answer, Jim.
Bernadette, (41) your thinking is incredibly dangerous. Don’t fool yourself or those of Christ’s flock under your influence. The Anglicanism you have described has nothing to do with the ‘faith once received’.
To say “the problem is groups,” and then say that what we need is three different groups for the sake of diversity, well, this is low wattage thinking. Sharpen up, Bernadette. Review your comment before you submit it.
Following on from Jim’s comment [#44], don’t forget the eleventh commandment: “You shall love one another as I have loved you.” (John 13:34 and 15:12). I have to ask which (if either) side is willing to be crucified for the sake of the Gospel and for others? I certainly don’t see this in the ACoC, but I do see it to some extent in ANiC.
For the record, I’m a member of the Anglican Essentials Federation, and therefore I remain a member of the ACoC, in the Diocese of New Westminster. However, I refuse to receive communion from Michael Ingham.
#47 I still wonder where the heck Federation is in all of this. (In the broader sense, not just Brandon). The only action I’ve seen out of Federation in the last few months is a news release.
Dear Bernadette:
some time ago I told myself I would try to stay away from the blogs once in a while and leave the battles with those who teach “inclusiveness above all else” to others…alas….I cannot.
I must question you on a couple of statements you have made. The first was in
#28 “Let’s think creatively WITHIN our Canadian church structure.”
Have I missed something in the last few months? I am sure that ANiC and ACoC are both in Canada but are NOT in the same Canadian Church Structure. If both are in the same “structure” then +Jim (Your husband) would have the authority to inhibit Priests, HOWEVER, ANiC is under the authority of the Southern Cone and +Jim does not have such authority.
The second is:
#38 “After attending Lambeth Jim M., I have only one word….fear.” Fear??
Please allow me to direct you to 2 Timothy 1:7 which says (NKJV)
“For God has not given us a spirit of fear, but of power and of love and of a sound mind.”
Why would one leave Lambeth with fear in their heart? God has not given us “fear” but does give us the power to overcome those things of the enemy, doesn’t He!
Really Bernadette. I thought it was only +Jim that was doing the selling of ANiC in the Brandon area, but I now see that he has a partner doing the same thing…… Great job. Just keep driving the people of the Brandon Diocese out of it and you are driving them straight to ANiC. You, +Jim, and other across this Country such as +Mike Ingham, +Bird in Niagara, ++Fred and the list goes on. Great salespeople showing concerned, Bible Believing Christians that the religion of inclusivity amongst other pagan thinking is just not the right way to go……
Kate, federation is so subversive no one even they know what they are doing. They respond to nothing. They organize no one. It’s almost like they don’t exist. Maybe in the end that is a good thing. ANiC seems to do all this and more.