Live blog of a press conference with Bishop Peter Beckwith at SF
You also might catch the interview on AnglicanTV
My journey here was roundabout. I was not gong to come for many reasons. Some was expense. What would the investment produce? Is it appropriate to sit and talk to folks who are on a different page, not simply a different page, another book, not just another book but an entirely different library. Some feel that sitting here gives credit to those who are in that other library.
But I was convicted by the Lord to come here and GAFCON and I am glad I went to both
They are different experiences, both valuable. It is good to be with people who believe the Creeds.
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We have heard talk that there are 2 gospels being preached in TEC and the AC and we have heard that clain denied. I believe the former is true and if you doubt that then read the Lambeth Witness being published here. That certainly leads me to believe that my assessment is true
There is stronger evidence.
Is Jesus Lord and Savior? Or is he friend and prophet? If he is not Lord and Savior is then whether he is friend and prophet is unimportant (?)
Is Jesus a way or our way or the is he the way?
Is truth what you think it is or is all truth God’s truth and it is our challenge to discern what that truth is?
All of these things are being said in TEC. I almost fell out of my chair in the HOB years ago when a bishop said, the church wrote the bible and the church can change it.
If the church can’t change the Bible, just what did Martin Luther do?
The Church can’t change the Bible, but it can distort its teachings. Martin Luther insisted on going back to Scripture as the standard for faith and conduct, and used it to critique the abuses of the Church of his day (using the Mass as a death ritual, selling indulgences, etc.).
Gordon (#2), methinks Henry’s question was rhetorical. Henry, give us the church history lesson you think we need to learn.
#1 Henry
My interpretation is that Martin Luther’s feat had more to do with breaking away from Roman Catholic traditions (i.e. turning to Protestantism). I’m pretty sure he was very traditional regarding scripture.
Although some aspects of Lutheranism seem ironic, considering they do ordain women pastors. Not sure about bishops though.
1 Henry,
If the church can’t change the Bible, just what did Martin Luther do?
The more I think about that sentence, the less I understand it.
ANiC has women priests/pastors too, I feel obliged to point out.
Derek (#4), much of modern Lutheranism (especially the so-called Evangelical variety) has as much to do with Luther as the ACoC has to do with Cranmer. The Missouri Synod does not support women’s ordination, although you will find individual churches that have women pastors (this can happen under their form of church government).
#7 Warren
Gotcha. My local Lutheran church had a female pastor, as did another one nearby. Didn’t realize that it wasn’t the norm.
Derek