Comments on: Lambeth: Pastoral Forum

By: Gerry O'Brien

Gerry O'Brien — Tue, 29 Jul 2008 12:36:19 +0000

Has KJS not already made her statement when she stated that bsp. gene robinson would not be asked to resign?

Kate, in the secular world there is a statement that says “You can’t teach pigs to fly”!! I would suggest instead that we watch where we set our feet.

There is a song done by the Gaithers that says “The Blood of Jesus can set the vilest sinner free” and that always leave the window of hope open but there is also a Scripture that says the “There are some who will never become believers” (paraphrased). I guess that all will just have to wait and see BUT while we are waiting, we ALL must move ahead and that is what ANiC and the Common Cause is all about….Moving ahead and doing our best to bring ourselves into a place that is in agreement with Scripture and the Christian Faith.

There is hope for the ACoC and TEC (however dim), but until it is manifested, then we must all move ahead and be on guard for the lies, the subtleness and the downright evil that the enemy can send our way (to which we are all susceptible) in the form of sweet talk, false promises and straight forward lies.

By: Paul+

Paul+ — Tue, 29 Jul 2008 04:55:39 +0000

“What we are proposing is kind of a safe place into which these dioceses and parishes can come…a safe place that will have a link to the Pastoral Forum.” How long will a diocese or parish be “holed up” in the proposed safe place? Presumably until these groups repent and return to the very institution that drove them out in the first place. How is that for Indaba? In South Yorkshire where I hail from this sort of talk is called “bunkum.” For all you non-Yorkshire types, I’ll let you figure out the meaning.

By: Reg Netterville

Reg Netterville — Mon, 28 Jul 2008 21:44:17 +0000

You can legislate and legalize all you want but you can’t change a persons heart. So while there might be some outward semblance of cohesion it would be like painting over rotten wood , it may look good from a distance but up close you can see it’s still rotten wood. Good riddance to the ACoC and if necessary to the ABoC (and it seems more and more so).

By: Jim Muirhead

Jim Muirhead — Mon, 28 Jul 2008 18:32:02 +0000

Even had the ABC actually supported Lambeth 1.10, Windsor and DAS, instead of suborning them, the attitudes in TEC and the ACoC (right down to the diocese synod level) have moved so far from orthodoxy, that this merely becomes an exercise in public relations.
It also gives Rowan an opportunity to patch the cosmetics of his reputation without fear of impeding the “new gospel” initiative.
Peace,
Jim

By: Pauline

Pauline — Mon, 28 Jul 2008 18:16:13 +0000

I am all for a safe place – how about the Primates Council of GAFCON. We would feel pretty safe there that’s for sure.

By: Toral

Toral — Mon, 28 Jul 2008 17:29:10 +0000

I believe that may have been a direct reference to SSBs going on in New Westminster.

By: David

David — Mon, 28 Jul 2008 17:11:51 +0000

6 Steve,
That question was asked in the press conference – the answer was, no it doesn’t mean that. What does it mean? Very little, I fear.

By: Steve Sahagian

Steve Sahagian — Mon, 28 Jul 2008 17:07:05 +0000

“applies to practices that may have already been authorised as well as proposed for authorisation in the future.”

Does this mean that Gene Robinson is no longer a bishop in the TEC?

By: Peter

Peter — Mon, 28 Jul 2008 17:02:41 +0000

OK, who remembers the Panel of Reference? This sounds similar….

Apart from putting the cause and effect at the same level, which is hardly fair, I’d support the idea in principle. However, without willingness on behalf of the revisionists, and some real teeth for the forum, it’s hard to see how it can actually achieve anything.

By: David

David — Mon, 28 Jul 2008 16:30:34 +0000

3, And to add to that thought: if our diocese (Niagara) – or the ACoC for that matter – returned to apparent orthodoxy, who in their right mind would believe it is anything other than a begrudging acquiescence to pressure from above, with no real change of heart whatsoever. I doubt that we will even get reluctant acquiescence – merely more conversation and listening – ie fudge and claptrap.