Comments on: http://www.anglicanessentials.ca/wordpress/index.php/2008/02/26/editor-of-the-niagara-anglican-replies-to-st-hildas-parishioner/ Wed, 08 Feb 2012 14:46:15 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Warren http://www.anglicanessentials.ca/wordpress/index.php/2008/02/26/editor-of-the-niagara-anglican-replies-to-st-hildas-parishioner/comment-page-1/#comment-17400 Warren Fri, 29 Feb 2008 03:44:26 +0000 http://www.anglicanessentials.ca/wordpress/index.php/2008/02/26/editor-of-the-niagara-anglican-replies-to-st-hilda%e2%80%99s-parishioner/#comment-17400 And now for an interesting quote on fundamentalism and liberal theologians from atheist philosopher Richard Rorty (who seems to have much more insight than Dean): http://politicsandreligion-danny.blogspot.com/2008/02/richard-rorty-on-appeal-of-protestant.html And now for an interesting quote on fundamentalism and liberal theologians from atheist philosopher Richard Rorty (who seems to have much more insight than Dean):

http://politicsandreligion-danny.blogspot.com/2008/02/richard-rorty-on-appeal-of-protestant.html

]]> By: Warren http://www.anglicanessentials.ca/wordpress/index.php/2008/02/26/editor-of-the-niagara-anglican-replies-to-st-hildas-parishioner/comment-page-1/#comment-17398 Warren Fri, 29 Feb 2008 03:17:04 +0000 http://www.anglicanessentials.ca/wordpress/index.php/2008/02/26/editor-of-the-niagara-anglican-replies-to-st-hilda%e2%80%99s-parishioner/#comment-17398 Dean (#33), this is getting wearisome, but I'm easily lured in (it's my weakness). Your "logic" is illogical, and your hyperbole is predictable. Statistics Canada reports a similar decline in Anglican and Jehovah's Witness attendance over the period 1991 - 2001; to which I say, so what. It proves absolutely nothing. If you think that someone who believes the Bible to be the inspired and infallible Word of God is a "fundamentalist", then I'll be honoured to have you call me one (actually, call me whatever you want). I'm sure, however, that you can't produce any credible statistics to show that "fundamentalism has grown exponentially" (over whatever undefined time period you had in mind). Who's more likely to invite an Islamic cleric to share a platform; the ABC or the leader of a "fundamental" evangelical denomination? Oh, I guess the events of the last couple of weeks made that clear, didn't they. But I certainly wouldn't draw any general conclusions about Anglican believers based on the actions or statements of the ABC. Cheerio. Dean (#33), this is getting wearisome, but I’m easily lured in (it’s my weakness). Your “logic” is illogical, and your hyperbole is predictable. Statistics Canada reports a similar decline in Anglican and Jehovah’s Witness attendance over the period 1991 – 2001; to which I say, so what. It proves absolutely nothing. If you think that someone who believes the Bible to be the inspired and infallible Word of God is a “fundamentalist”, then I’ll be honoured to have you call me one (actually, call me whatever you want). I’m sure, however, that you can’t produce any credible statistics to show that “fundamentalism has grown exponentially” (over whatever undefined time period you had in mind). Who’s more likely to invite an Islamic cleric to share a platform; the ABC or the leader of a “fundamental” evangelical denomination? Oh, I guess the events of the last couple of weeks made that clear, didn’t they. But I certainly wouldn’t draw any general conclusions about Anglican believers based on the actions or statements of the ABC. Cheerio.

]]> By: dean http://www.anglicanessentials.ca/wordpress/index.php/2008/02/26/editor-of-the-niagara-anglican-replies-to-st-hildas-parishioner/comment-page-1/#comment-17394 dean Fri, 29 Feb 2008 02:20:45 +0000 http://www.anglicanessentials.ca/wordpress/index.php/2008/02/26/editor-of-the-niagara-anglican-replies-to-st-hilda%e2%80%99s-parishioner/#comment-17394 RE: 33 Indeed, the denominations embracing christian and islamic fundamentalism have grown exponentially! The parallels between these two groups are frightening. RE: 33
Indeed, the denominations embracing christian and islamic fundamentalism have grown exponentially! The parallels between these two groups are frightening.

]]> By: Gary English http://www.anglicanessentials.ca/wordpress/index.php/2008/02/26/editor-of-the-niagara-anglican-replies-to-st-hildas-parishioner/comment-page-1/#comment-17393 Gary English Fri, 29 Feb 2008 02:13:33 +0000 http://www.anglicanessentials.ca/wordpress/index.php/2008/02/26/editor-of-the-niagara-anglican-replies-to-st-hilda%e2%80%99s-parishioner/#comment-17393 I was witness to the uninvited and unannounced visit to St. Chad's by the Bishop of Toronto during Sunday service on the 24th of Feb.. I heard him say "this is my Church" (no comment needed) I also heard him announce that Bishop Poole would hold a meeting the Following Evening to clarify issues. A nickle short and a day late was my first thought. When I asked the Bishop If this is what is meant by the oft mentioned "adequate pastoral oversight for those in disagreement" I was ignored. I was witness to the uninvited and unannounced visit to St. Chad’s by the Bishop of Toronto during Sunday service on the 24th of Feb.. I heard him say “this is my Church” (no comment needed) I also heard him announce that Bishop Poole would hold a meeting the Following Evening to clarify issues. A nickle short and a day late was my first thought. When I asked the Bishop If this is what is meant by the oft mentioned “adequate pastoral oversight for those in disagreement” I was ignored.

]]> By: Ellie M. http://www.anglicanessentials.ca/wordpress/index.php/2008/02/26/editor-of-the-niagara-anglican-replies-to-st-hildas-parishioner/comment-page-1/#comment-17388 Ellie M. Fri, 29 Feb 2008 01:11:37 +0000 http://www.anglicanessentials.ca/wordpress/index.php/2008/02/26/editor-of-the-niagara-anglican-replies-to-st-hilda%e2%80%99s-parishioner/#comment-17388 Dean, I'm not feeling the loving radical inclusivity. . . Dean, I’m not feeling the loving radical inclusivity. . .

]]> By: Warren http://www.anglicanessentials.ca/wordpress/index.php/2008/02/26/editor-of-the-niagara-anglican-replies-to-st-hildas-parishioner/comment-page-1/#comment-17379 Warren Thu, 28 Feb 2008 22:25:37 +0000 http://www.anglicanessentials.ca/wordpress/index.php/2008/02/26/editor-of-the-niagara-anglican-replies-to-st-hilda%e2%80%99s-parishioner/#comment-17379 Dean (#27), I agree with your comment about many years of self-sorting. During my relatively short time in an Anglican church, one of the first questions I asked my pastor was how a true believer could remain in some of the parishes I was hearing about. The answer, I expect, is that few did remain in those churches where the gospel was twisted into an all-inclusive message that tickled the ears of those who did not want to turn from their sin. If a vote was held in all parishes across the country, I expect that, in virtually all cases, there would be a strong majority one way or the other. I have no doubt that this is a big part of the reason why Anglican numbers have declined over the years while other denominations have grown. Sheep and goats cannot fellowship together. Dean (#27), I agree with your comment about many years of self-sorting. During my relatively short time in an Anglican church, one of the first questions I asked my pastor was how a true believer could remain in some of the parishes I was hearing about. The answer, I expect, is that few did remain in those churches where the gospel was twisted into an all-inclusive message that tickled the ears of those who did not want to turn from their sin. If a vote was held in all parishes across the country, I expect that, in virtually all cases, there would be a strong majority one way or the other. I have no doubt that this is a big part of the reason why Anglican numbers have declined over the years while other denominations have grown. Sheep and goats cannot fellowship together.

]]> By: David Jenkins http://www.anglicanessentials.ca/wordpress/index.php/2008/02/26/editor-of-the-niagara-anglican-replies-to-st-hildas-parishioner/comment-page-1/#comment-17377 David Jenkins Thu, 28 Feb 2008 22:13:16 +0000 http://www.anglicanessentials.ca/wordpress/index.php/2008/02/26/editor-of-the-niagara-anglican-replies-to-st-hilda%e2%80%99s-parishioner/#comment-17377 Dean: you hold the new record for the time it takes to descend from reason to argumentum ad hominem. Dean: you hold the new record for the time it takes to descend from reason to argumentum ad hominem.

]]> By: Kate http://www.anglicanessentials.ca/wordpress/index.php/2008/02/26/editor-of-the-niagara-anglican-replies-to-st-hildas-parishioner/comment-page-1/#comment-17376 Kate Thu, 28 Feb 2008 22:05:35 +0000 http://www.anglicanessentials.ca/wordpress/index.php/2008/02/26/editor-of-the-niagara-anglican-replies-to-st-hilda%e2%80%99s-parishioner/#comment-17376 Never said I was correct on all counts - but I am not a hypocrite, nor are ANiC's leaders. Never said I was correct on all counts – but I am not a hypocrite, nor are ANiC’s leaders.

]]> By: Anna http://www.anglicanessentials.ca/wordpress/index.php/2008/02/26/editor-of-the-niagara-anglican-replies-to-st-hildas-parishioner/comment-page-1/#comment-17374 Anna Thu, 28 Feb 2008 21:51:15 +0000 http://www.anglicanessentials.ca/wordpress/index.php/2008/02/26/editor-of-the-niagara-anglican-replies-to-st-hilda%e2%80%99s-parishioner/#comment-17374 Wow! Nasty stuff Dean. Shame. You're not really winning any friends here. Wow! Nasty stuff Dean. Shame. You’re not really winning any friends here.

]]> By: Dean http://www.anglicanessentials.ca/wordpress/index.php/2008/02/26/editor-of-the-niagara-anglican-replies-to-st-hildas-parishioner/comment-page-1/#comment-17373 Dean Thu, 28 Feb 2008 21:30:52 +0000 http://www.anglicanessentials.ca/wordpress/index.php/2008/02/26/editor-of-the-niagara-anglican-replies-to-st-hilda%e2%80%99s-parishioner/#comment-17373 Well then Kate, you must certainly be correct on all accounts! Carry on - but leave the keys in the mail slot. Cheers! Well then Kate, you must certainly be correct on all accounts! Carry on – but leave the keys in the mail slot. Cheers!

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