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By: Frank Wirrell

Frank Wirrell — Wed, 18 Jan 2012 15:34:32 +0000

If one is to take the statement of Fred Hiltz regarding making allowance for the decisions of government, one should ask what provisions he will make if the law concerning multiple wives is changed. Clearly Fred Hiltz does not take his vows seriously. The church is supposed to be a witness to society – not a follower. His statements simply prove his refusal to stand for the vows he has made and that proof is further enhanced by his congratulatory messages to Michael Ingham with respect to the actions against orthodox parishes. Again it should be noted I clearly state “orthodox” as opposed to “conservative”. Orthodoxy is a stand for the truth but being conservative can mean almost anything. The same argument applies to liberal whereas the correct terminology for liberals under the banner of Ingham is APOSTASY.
I continue to pray for their repentance but from a human standpoint that will not happen until the Lord hits them over the head with a 4 x 6.

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WebElf Blogroll News « The WebElf Report — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 18:49:08 +0000

[...] Canada’s Anglicans begin “divorce” proceedings. Primate writes, Anglican blogger editorialises a little. Repeat after me, �This is not a Communion-breaking issue.� And the Goat-Rodeo ensues …. [...]

By: Tom

Tom — Mon, 14 Jan 2008 19:18:00 +0000

++Fred has glossed over the situation in +Ingham’s back yard as the lack of adequate episcopal oversite has left St Matthews & St John’s parish still hanging out to dry since 2002. Keep these parishes and others affected by +Ingham’s actions in your prayers.

By: Pauline

Pauline — Fri, 11 Jan 2008 20:37:09 +0000

You are right – many are waiting to see what happens in the next 3 years and listening very closely for directions from the HS.
From reading this letter it would appear that we really are a congregationalist Church. If General Synod’s decisions are not binding on the Bishops then what the heck do we have a General Synod for? If the absolute power resides in the Bishop of each Diocese we might as well join the Baptist Convention. I believe their leaders have more influence than ours do. What a farce. I am sorry I am getting a bit testy. I went away for Christmas to visit family in Honduras and saw the terrible poverty that abides there. I find my patience is wearing very thin at these ridiculous pronouncements and the obsession with pushing this ungodly behaviour. However, I am in a good Parish with a great Priest who does listen and we are to stay for the time being. Rant off!

By: Rev

Rev — Fri, 11 Jan 2008 20:20:53 +0000

‘It is important to note that while some choose to leave our church over this issue a great many more, even in the midst of great personal struggle, choose to remain within our fellowship.’
Perhaps it might be added that a fair proportion of those remaining do not agree with Hiltz and the direction he’s heading and may yet leave.
One would hope, and pray, that the Primates do not buy this guff!
I’m not sensing the stature of a world leader in the tone and content of letters issued thus far, a Gandalf he is not, more of the level of gollum.
What a shame!

By: John K

John K — Fri, 11 Jan 2008 06:08:31 +0000

Reading this letter, I found myself thinking it could have been written by a used car or a vaccuum cleaner salesman. I could accuse him of being manipulative or disingenuous, but to be charitable, I’ll just credit it to blindness.

By: Mrs. Falstaff

Mrs. Falstaff — Thu, 10 Jan 2008 16:24:22 +0000

Wow. Seems to me like he’s taken a page out of McCarthy’s book…
My hopes for an amicable separation are dwindling….

By: Peter

Peter — Thu, 10 Jan 2008 16:22:06 +0000

Thanks for that – I’ll post it soon….

By: Drumroll

Drumroll — Thu, 10 Jan 2008 15:44:02 +0000

Peter: The following attachment URL was in the Toronto Star article in the computer version, but does not show up with the URL above.
A Bishops Ad Clerum!

http://www3.thestar.com/static/PDF/080110_bishop_cyrus_letter.pdf

By: Drumroll

Drumroll — Thu, 10 Jan 2008 15:37:16 +0000

Peter:
You should check out todays Toronto Star, article written by Stuart Laidlaw.
http://www.thestar.com/printArticle/292698