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		<title>By: Linda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Linda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 20:25:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>May The Lord our God forgive.
What happened to keeping our focus on Jesus and the words of our Heavenly Father.
Romans 1 and 8 is very clear on the way we should take.
Shame on our Clergy, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>May The Lord our God forgive.<br />
What happened to keeping our focus on Jesus and the words of our Heavenly Father.<br />
<a href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?go=Go&amp;q=Romans+1" class="bibleref" title="ESV Romans 1">Romans 1</a> and 8 is very clear on the way we should take.<br />
Shame on our Clergy, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2007 06:00:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An after thought</p>
<p>You that know  the Anglican Church of Canada is headed in the wrong direction. Ask yourself, (you that may be willing to stay even though you know the state of the ACC is wrong) how can you ask some of your fellow Christian Brothers or Sisters, to accept the direction of the Anglican Church of Canada when  you yourself know it is wrong and that you yourself can not accept it? To stay and to work for change, to a certain extent, means to accept that direction.</p>
<p>I love the words, “the Anglican Church has always been able to stay together even with a wide divergence of  opinion and practice.” These words are poison, they are words that will lead many to eternal damnation. They are words, employed by the liberal groups and those who would call themselves Orthodox or conservative (who have given up the work for change), to try and to keep the conservative QUIET, it is a cop out.</p>
<p>Just look at the whole idea of women&#8217;s ordination. It is a very unpopular position today in the Anglican Church of Canada, to say women&#8217;s ordinations are not valid. They have no scriptural basis, Paul tells us what a Bishop, Priest or Deacon should be, that they are to be a husband of  one wife and that he should govern his home, that if he could not govern his own home how could he be expected to govern the flock entrusted to them. </p>
<p>Scripture does speak about one position held by women and that is the position of the Deaconess, but it is generally accepted that this order was a lay order and not an ordained order. With the issue of women’s ordination, we must get away from the word ministry when we talk about the several roles we all have within the Church. Ministry was given to the Church as a whole, and we all have a part to play in that ministry.</p>
<p>A Bishop by himself can not constitute the ministry of the Church, neither does the roles the Priests or Deacons, Sub-Deacons, Deaconesses, Monks, Nuns and other Religious, and the roles we play as lay folk in the Church. It is the whole working together that constitutes ministry and that ministry, is the Ministry given to the Church, AS A WHOLE. </p>
<p>To say this today in an Anglican Church of Canada meeting synod or what have you, you would be not only be black balled but you would be shouted down. The argument of women’s ordinations, is over, it is a done deal.</p>
<p>Today the issue of same sex blessings has no scriptural basis, it is basically the wind of the popular culture of our day. The way things have proceeded in the Anglican Church of Canada, it is the same road that women’s ordinations had gone. Right from the Windsor Report (Windsor Report #1 [Emmaus], women’s ordinations, and Windsor Report #2 [Emmaus] Blessings of Same Sex Couples and Ordination of practicing Homosexual individuals) the Anglican Consultative Council to the very actions of Forward in Faith (Women’s Ordinations) and Anglican Essentials, and Essentials Federation (same sex blessings and ordinations of practicing homosexual individuals). It is all the same. Hay don’t take my word for it go look it up for yourself.</p>
<p>With today’s issues same sex blessings and practicing homosexual clergy and ordinations, the argument is over the mind of General Synod has been made up. The ground that these liberal groups in the Church today gained, and they know they have gained, they know that they have gained, and a lot of ground in these last 50 years. They will just organize themselves the more while the conservative groups will be inhibited at every attempt that they will try to organize. Conservatives in the Church are themselves divided on many issues for example women’s ordinations and the liberal groups know this, they have and will continue to use it against them, to divide and to conquer.</p>
<p>The Anglican Church of Canada can no longer claim to be apart of the ONE, HOLY CATHOLIC, AND APOSTOLIC CHURCH. I even question weather that the Anglican Church of Canada, may be even called a Church anymore.</p>
<p>May God help us, may the Holy Spirit be our guide, and may Jesus be our way, truth and life.</p>
<p>Blessings</p>
<p>Rob</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2007 04:52:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been to meetings (of sort) and the word that you always hear is, &quot;there must be a listening process.&quot; Please! I also hear the same people, when they don&#039;t like what they hear, well that is not the voice of the Holy Spirit, they say it is the voice of hurt, the voice of hate. 

Listening means for these people that &quot;we&quot; (Orthodox Anglicans) are the ones who have to sit in our little chair and listen, to take everything that Mr. Robinson or Mrs. Jefferts-Schori or Mr Ingram and the members of their prophetic groopies, as &quot;divinely inspired&quot;.

There comes a time when you know the ship (that was suppose to bring you to safe harbour) is sinking, the getting to that safe harbour means leaving that ship. I know that means for many leaving what they feel and think as being comfortable, even though the storm is raging and fear is gripping at every side. 

Truth that is mixed with lies is not wholesome even when you may see some truth, but truth that is not pure is not truth at all. The truth that has been handed to us in Holy Scripture, the Gospel, is our beacon, it shows the way, (the way,  the truth, and the life) that is only found in Jesus Christ, and not in todays popular culture.

But hay, there I go again all hurtful and hateful, again!

May God help us, may the Holy Spirit be our guide, and may Jesus be our way, truth and life.

Blessings

Rob</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been to meetings (of sort) and the word that you always hear is, &#8220;there must be a listening process.&#8221; Please! I also hear the same people, when they don&#8217;t like what they hear, well that is not the voice of the Holy Spirit, they say it is the voice of hurt, the voice of hate. </p>
<p>Listening means for these people that &#8220;we&#8221; (Orthodox Anglicans) are the ones who have to sit in our little chair and listen, to take everything that Mr. Robinson or Mrs. Jefferts-Schori or Mr Ingram and the members of their prophetic groopies, as &#8220;divinely inspired&#8221;.</p>
<p>There comes a time when you know the ship (that was suppose to bring you to safe harbour) is sinking, the getting to that safe harbour means leaving that ship. I know that means for many leaving what they feel and think as being comfortable, even though the storm is raging and fear is gripping at every side. </p>
<p>Truth that is mixed with lies is not wholesome even when you may see some truth, but truth that is not pure is not truth at all. The truth that has been handed to us in Holy Scripture, the Gospel, is our beacon, it shows the way, (the way,  the truth, and the life) that is only found in Jesus Christ, and not in todays popular culture.</p>
<p>But hay, there I go again all hurtful and hateful, again!</p>
<p>May God help us, may the Holy Spirit be our guide, and may Jesus be our way, truth and life.</p>
<p>Blessings</p>
<p>Rob</p>
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		<title>By: Gill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2007 23:16:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Finally found out where our Bishop stands-maybe! Percy Coffin voted &quot;No&quot; but does not say on which motion, but says that on a personal level he has no problem with the issue. Now we know. He also gives the impression that he is going to &quot;work&quot; on the diocese to get a discussion going. I do know that I do not wish to be a part of that discussion, and now we have to think long and hard and pray fervently about our placce in the ACC.
May God help us all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Finally found out where our Bishop stands-maybe! Percy Coffin voted &#8220;No&#8221; but does not say on which motion, but says that on a personal level he has no problem with the issue. Now we know. He also gives the impression that he is going to &#8220;work&#8221; on the diocese to get a discussion going. I do know that I do not wish to be a part of that discussion, and now we have to think long and hard and pray fervently about our placce in the ACC.<br />
May God help us all.</p>
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		<title>By: obituary</title>
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		<dc:creator>obituary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 17:32:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Meanwhile the quiet departure of what&#039;s left of the conservative remainder in the ACC will be using another side door, never to return. They will be joining the great host of people who still call themselves Anglican*  but can&#039;t abide what has happened to their former church. 
* check out David Virtue&#039;s article re the diocese of Niagara for the story. www.virtueonline.org/portal/modules/news/article.php?storyid=6155</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meanwhile the quiet departure of what&#8217;s left of the conservative remainder in the ACC will be using another side door, never to return. They will be joining the great host of people who still call themselves Anglican*  but can&#8217;t abide what has happened to their former church.<br />
* check out David Virtue&#8217;s article re the diocese of Niagara for the story. <a href="http://www.virtueonline.org/portal/modules/news/article.php?storyid=6155" rel="nofollow">http://www.virtueonline.org/portal/modules/news/article.php?storyid=6155</a></p>
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		<title>By: DaveM</title>
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		<dc:creator>DaveM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 12:42:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>drdanfee eludes to &quot;driving away and excluding&quot; homosexuals. &quot;Liberals&quot; accuse the church and orthodox members of seeking to bar gays.  This is incorrect, as I am yet to see a single member of the &quot;conservative&quot; side of this issue do or even hint at throwing anyone out.  I will state that it is clearly the case that the &quot;liberals&quot; are dogmatically saying that if you don&#039;t like it, leave.  I see no sense of compromise in their positions.  If you don&#039;t agree with them you aren&#039;t listening, or are a hate monger.  They are the ones that are blind to any position but their own.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>drdanfee eludes to &#8220;driving away and excluding&#8221; homosexuals. &#8220;Liberals&#8221; accuse the church and orthodox members of seeking to bar gays.  This is incorrect, as I am yet to see a single member of the &#8220;conservative&#8221; side of this issue do or even hint at throwing anyone out.  I will state that it is clearly the case that the &#8220;liberals&#8221; are dogmatically saying that if you don&#8217;t like it, leave.  I see no sense of compromise in their positions.  If you don&#8217;t agree with them you aren&#8217;t listening, or are a hate monger.  They are the ones that are blind to any position but their own.</p>
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		<title>By: Mrs.  Falstaff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mrs.  Falstaff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 19:41:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that women&#039;s ordination is an area where Christians can agree to disagree.  I have seen clear, consice arguments from scripture in favour of it;  the same cannot be said of same sex blessings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that women&#8217;s ordination is an area where Christians can agree to disagree.  I have seen clear, consice arguments from scripture in favour of it;  the same cannot be said of same sex blessings.</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christopher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 13:50:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...I felt I had to write and urge you to contend for the faith that was once for all entrusted to the saints.  For certain men whose condemnation was written about long ago have secretly slipped in among you.  They are godless men, who change the grace of GOD into a license for immorality and deny Jesus Christ our only Sovereign and LORD.
Jude
(ps. The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons. 1tim4.1)
(ps. Take heed therefore how ye hear.
       Jesus
       Lu8.18)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;I felt I had to write and urge you to contend for the faith that was once for all entrusted to the saints.  For certain men whose condemnation was written about long ago have secretly slipped in among you.  They are godless men, who change the grace of GOD into a license for immorality and deny Jesus Christ our only Sovereign and LORD.<br />
Jude<br />
(ps. The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons. 1tim4.1)<br />
(ps. Take heed therefore how ye hear.<br />
       Jesus<br />
       Lu8.18)</p>
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		<title>By: Jude Carriere</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jude Carriere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2007 20:31:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is nothing about tax evasion in the creed, even though Jesus talks about paying taxes. So tax evasion is not in conflict with the core doctrine (in the sense of being creedal), although it remains a sin (as noted in red letters in my bible).
I suppose in that case one might have to agree with A186 without agreeing with affirmation of blessing ssu.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is nothing about tax evasion in the creed, even though Jesus talks about paying taxes. So tax evasion is not in conflict with the core doctrine (in the sense of being creedal), although it remains a sin (as noted in red letters in my bible).<br />
I suppose in that case one might have to agree with A186 without agreeing with affirmation of blessing ssu.</p>
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		<title>By: John K</title>
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		<dc:creator>John K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2007 19:52:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was noted that Victoria Matthews of Edmonton also voted for no-conflict and against the blessings.  that would seem to indicate that someone else then went the other way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was noted that Victoria Matthews of Edmonton also voted for no-conflict and against the blessings.  that would seem to indicate that someone else then went the other way.</p>
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